Thursday, September 20, 2012

The Quagmire of dealing with DirecTV

I signed up for TV service from DirecTV on August 30, 2012.

I am having some trouble interfacing with the company, so I decided to start a trouble ticket on this item on this blog. For right now I will start with the correspondence, since I think it is self explanatory.

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September 20, 2012

Mr. Michael D. White, CEO
DirecTV
2230 East Imperial Highway
El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: Account # XXXXXXXXXX

Dear Mr. White:

I write to you as a last resort to clear up a quagmire of incomprehensible communications between DirecTV and myself.  After having spent more than eight hours of my time on this issue I will be forced to terminate my relationship with your firm if the matter is not resolved expeditiously. I cannot devote this amount of time to such an inconsequential matter.  I am a new customer to DirecTV and would prefer to have a simple relationship wherein you provide  the services and I pay for them, not an endless stream of calls and other communications that are going nowhere and where no one on your staff has any inkling of what is going on.

By way of background I provide the following narrative:

On or about August 30, 2012 (approximately 19 days ago) I initiated a call to AT&T for bundled services of DSL and TV services at one of my homes in California.  AT&T was unable to complete the TV portion of the “bundle” and told me to call DirecTV directly. I spoke with the representative of DirecTV and signed up for the service with a two year contract. They were very polite and the technician quickly arrived to set up the receiver and connected it to my TV set.

However, on September 5, 2012 (approximately two weeks ago, and about a week after I signed up for your company’s service) I received a letter from DirecTV dated August 29, 2012 ( a copy with my notations on it is included here). Besides all the incorrect information in the letter, I thought that the letter was strange in that the quality was so poor, there is no address associated with the letter, and no telephone number at DirecTV. My first reaction to it was that it was not sent by DirecTV and might be a letter ffrom someone “phishing” for my personal information. This is still my current belief.



I called DirecTV about the letter. They found no record of the letter having been sent to me, and nothing with the reference number 504697801 as indicated in the letter. I called the telephone number of the Exchange Service Center indicated in the letter. The answering system referred to NCTUE and not Exchange Service Center.

They would not deal with me unless I provided my personal information (social security number and date of birth, etc.). I gave them the reference number listed in the letter, but that was insufficient for them to deal with me. I was not giving them my personal information until I verified that they were a trustworthy party who were who they represented themselves to be.  They could not satisfy me in that regard.

Now, more specifically, the DirecTV letter of August 29 stated that the consumer reporting agency (Exchange Service Center) was unable to locate a credit file for me. I can assure you that I have a credit file. I could only conclude that somehow the representative at DirecTV had gotten my social security number incorrect or something like that, or, even more alarming, that the information provided by DirecTV to their credit reporting agency had been compromised and was being used by some interloper.  I called DirecTV to try to see if this was the case. No one at DirecTV who I was put in contact with could deal with this issue.

The letter further states that I was told certain things, more specifically, that: (1) a fee would be required and/or (2) the offer(s) for which I was qualified were not as favorable as those for consumers with a credit file. Be assured that I was not told any such things.

Being left out to hang in the breeze, so to speak, since I could not get anywhere with DirecTV, I did do some investigation into who this NCTUE organization is and found that they might be a legitimate credit reporting agency. However, I did find many comments about strange letters being received from this organization by many consumers.  Consequently, on the same day I received the letter from them, September 5, 2012 I, wrote a letter to NCTUE (see enclosed letter). I still felt somewhat uneasy about sending my personal information to them so, as you can see from the letter, I provided them with enough information for them to pull a credit file on me.

On September 18, 2012, I received a letter (attached) from NCTUE dated September 12. You will note that they were still unable to find a credit file on me.

After having received the letter from NCTUE I again called DirecTV on the matter. They again reiterated that there was no record of a letter having been sent to me on the subject and I was referred to the retention department who in turn referred me to the sales department. Since I had already dealt a few times with the sales department I decided it was time to rethink this matter. I concluded that it was time to bring in a responsible person at DirecTV to clear up this matter or I would cancel the service.

As you can probably tell from the letter that I sent to the NCTUE I have more utility accounts than most people have underwear and I can assure you that I have a credit file.

Please see that this mess is straightened out and have someone get back to me to assure me that my personal information that resides in the records of your firm is well protected and has not been compromised and the real meaning of the correspondence from your firm.

Sincerely,

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                                                                                          AUGUST 29,2012
Mr. XXXXXXXXXX

Reference Number 504697801

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXXX

Thank you for your interest in DIRECTV. Based on the identification information you provided to us, the consumer reporting agency listed below was unable to locate a credit file for you.  Because a credit file could not be located, you were told that  (1) a fee would be required and/or (2) the offer's for which you qualified were not as favorable as those for consumers with a credit file.

Since this action was based on the consumer reporting agency's inability to locate a credit file for you, you have the right, under the Fair Credit Reporting Act, to receive a copy of your consumer credit report at no charge if the request is made within 60 days of receipt of this letter.  This report can be obtained by writing directly to the consumer reporting agency at the address below or calling their toll-free number (866) 343 2821

           Exchange Service Center
           P.O. Box 105161
           Atlanta, GA 30348-5398

The consumer reporting agency will need identification information from you, which may include:
     A copy of this letter
     Your full name, including first, middle, last and suffix (i.e. Jr., Sr., II, or III as applicable)
     Any other names you may use or have used in the past (maiden name, previous married  name, nickname, etc.)
     Social Security Number
     Date of Birth

The consumer reporting agency listed above played no part in our decision and is unable to supply specific reasons why we took this action.  If, after receiving a copy of your consumer credit report from the consumer reporting agency, you determine that the information is not accurate or complete, you have the right to dispute the matter with the reporting agency.

This notice applies to all requests for service that you made within 30 days after your first request and in response to which we informed you that an action was taken.

Sincerely,

DIRECTV, LLC


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September 5, 2012

Exchange Service Center
PO Box 105161
Atlanta, GA 30348-5398



Reference Number 504697801
Gentlemen:

I am in receipt of a letter dated August 29, 2012 from DIRECTV with the above captioned reference number wherein DIRECTV indicates that you were unable to locate a credit file for me.
They mailed that notice to me at @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ in spite of the fact that I gave them my mailing address as stated above in South Dakota. I have the right, under the Fair Credit Reporting Act, to receive a copy of my consumer credit report at no charge
if the request is made within 60 days of receipt of the above cited letter. Since I am within the sixty day period, I expect you to promptly comply with this request since my relationship with DIRECTV has been jeopardized by your inability to locate my file..

Since there appears to be some confusion involved here since it was reported that you have no file on me, I have provided below some additional information as to the utility companies that I currently have accounts with (cities in parentheses are where the services are provided):

Southwest Gas Corporation, Las Vegas, NV (Incline Village, NV)
Aquarion Water Company, Lewiston, ME (Ridgefield, CT)
AT&T, Carol Stream, IL
(three accounts for Ridgefield, CT, Incline Village, NV, and San Rafael, CA)
AT&T Mobility, Atlanta, GA (Sioux Falls, SD)
Connecticut Light & Power, Hartford, CT (two accounts for Ridgefield, CT)
Comcast, San Rafael, CA (this account went inactive on August 28, 2012)
Marin Municipal Water District, Corte Madera, CA (San Rafael, CA)
NV Energy, Reno, NV (Incline Village, NV)
Pacific Gas & electric, Sacramento, CA (San Rafael, CA)
Time Warner Cable, Flushing, NY (New York, NY)

Needless to say, I have many other active non utility accounts and all the major credit reporting agencies have active files on me.  I look forward to your prompt reply.

Sincerely,


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Mr. XXXXXXXXXXX
Sioux Falls, SD

September 12 2012

Dear Consumer:

We have been unsuccessful in locating a telecom and utilities exchange data report in our database with the information that you provided.

We were unable to locate a data report for you due to one of the following reasons.
You may not have a current data report.
You may not have applied for new services recently or not actively used services (such as telecom, pay TV or utilities) for the last 10 years with a company that reports to the telecom and utilities exchanges.
We do not maintain international addresses.
Your telecom or utilities service provider(s) may not be a company that reports to the telecom and utilities exchange.

You also may want to contact the three nationwide credit reporting agencies list below for a copy of your credit file.

Equfax
Experian
TransUnion

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to assist you.

Exchange Service Center NCTUE

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Further notes on NCTUE.
On September 18, 2012 I called NCTUE (Exchange Service Center) with regard to their letter of September 12, 2012. They assured me that they have a file on me and would mail it to me at my PO Box in South Dakota.

On September 26, 2012 I called NCTUE again, having not received any credit file from them, and they informed me that it takes 7 to 10 days to get the report. That means I should receive it between September 25 and September 28. I will wait until September 29 before calling them again.

On October 1, 2012 I called NCTUE again, having not received any credit file from them. They now inform me that it takes 7 to 10 BUSINESS days to get the report that was SENT on Sept 18. They claim I will now receive it on October 2, 2012, the tenth BUSINESS day. I will call again on October 2, 2012 if I do not receive the report by that time.

On Octover 2, 2012 I called NCTUE again, having not received any credit file from them. They do not know why I did not receive the credit file. They have now initiated an investigation as to why I did not receive the credit file and have initiated a new confirmation number to remail a new credit file to me that should be received by October 16, 2012.  It is interesting to note that the representative of NCTUE (Tom) concluded the conversation by thanking me for contacting "Equifax".  I know that NCTUE is owned by Equifax. At least now I think I am dealing with a real company.  A lot of good that does me.

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October 3, 2012

Exchange Service Center
PO Box 105161
Atlanta, GA 30348-5398
Confirmation numbers xxxxxxxxxxxx and yyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Gentlemen:

I am in receipt of a letter dated August 29, 2012 from DIRECTV wherein DIRECTV indicates that you were unable to locate a credit file for me and that the consequences of that may damage my relationship with them. On September 5, 2012 I wrote to you about this matter. I received a response from you dated September 12, 2012 indicating that you were again unable to locate a credit file for me. On September 18, 2012 I called your company and one of your representatives was able to locate the file and indicated that a copy would be mailed to me at the above address and I would receive it within 10 business days. On October 2, 2012 I called your company since I had not received any correspondence from you and I was told that the credit file was sent on September 18 and that I must have received it. The mailing address is, in fact, a secure lockbox and every transaction received in it is logged and scanned. The lockbox service I use for this is prepared to issue a letter certifying that no such letter was ever received at that location.
Consequently, your representative stated that you would mail to me another copy of my credit file at the above address and that I would receive it by October 16, 2012.

I again reiterate that I have the right, under the Fair Credit Reporting Act, to receive a copy of my consumer credit report at no charge in a reasonable amount of time.  My patience is waning and I intend to exercise my rights under the Fair Credit Reporting Act to collect any damages and attorneys fees I should have should you not comply with the request in a timely fashion.
The request(s) have been made within 60 days of receipt of the above cited letter from DirecTV. Since I am within the sixty day period, I, again, expect you to promptly comply with this request since my relationship with DIRECTV has been jeopardized by your inability to either locate my file or transmit a copy of it to me so that I may determine if you have recorded incorrect information in my file.

I look forward to your prompt reply.

Sincerely,


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October 4, 2012

I have received a volicemail from Debbie Barnes from the Office of the President of DirecTV, Attorney General and Better Business Bureau office 800 583-2191 X 20048. The phone number she called from is located in Idaho, (208) 363 6015. They have received the letter I sent to the President and want to discuss the matter with me. I have returned the call and left a message.

Debbie returned my call. She has thoroughly researched the history of my account and has no explanation for the letter I received. They, in fact, did pull a credit report on me and it was fine. They apologized profusely for the confusion that the letter introduced and the inability of their staff to deal with the consequences of that. I asked them to send me a letter assuring me that there will me no negative consequences that will result and that the letter was a misunderstanding on their part and should not have been sent.

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DIRECTV

October 4, 2012

XXXXXXXXXX
Sioux Falls, SD

Re: account YYYYYYYYYY

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXX

We thank you for taking our call on October 4, 2012. We regret any frustration you may have experienced in regard to your DIRECTV service.

After review, we have determined the letter in question sent by DIRECTV on August 29 was generated in error when the order was placed. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We have verified your account, which was activated August 30, is in good standing.

We appreciate the opportunity to respond to your concerns and hope you will have no further cause for any complaint in relation to our service.

Sincerely,

Debbie Bond
DIRECTV Office of the President



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10/21/12

My letter to Exchange Service Center, or NCTUE of October 3, 2012 has gone unanswered. According to the representative I should have received a copy of my credit file by October 16, which I have not. In a call today they claim that they mailed it again to me on October 3, 2012. After numerous attempts to get the Indian Customer Service Representative to connect me to a supervisor and waiting over an hour on the phone they hung up on me.  The best they could offer, again, was to send it to me at the same address they claim to have sent it twice before. It is now time to file a claim against them for violating the Fair Credit Reporting Act.


10/23/12
I just got a call back with a voicemail from a Ms. Huffman from Equifax. She claims to have finally resolved the matter of the four attempts to send my credit file to me. She claims that because my file was sent to a third party and then on to someone else that it was returned to them.  This does not make any sense.  She left a phone number to send a fax to 888 416 9436 to send her information to request that the credit file be sent to my address.
I have tried to contact Ms. Huffman with no success.
So, the conclusion I have come to is that they are trying, for some unknown reason, to avoid sending me my credit file.  The plot thickens.

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10/24/12
After a careful investigation of the circumstances I have concluded that the address to which Equifax, or NCTUE or Exchange Service Center, whatever they want to call themselves has sent the credit report to the wrong address and it has been returned to them each time.
I called the NCTUE and attempted  to speak with Ms. Huffman. She was not available, but one of the customer representatives tried to assist me by changing the address to which I wanted the report sent to.
As hard as she tried, the system would not accept the address and kept changing it to the address that would be rejected by the US Postal Service. She suggested that I contact Ms. Huffman when she was available.

10/25/12
I called the NCTUE (Exchange Service Center, or Equifax) to speak to Ms Huffman. I was put on hold for half an hour. Ms. Huffman is not available today, but Gayle is available. I waited another half hour on hold and the phone was disconnected.  I called back and explained that I wanted to speak with Gayle. After a 25 minute wait I was told that I would have to call back in half an hour. I told them that I would wait on the phone call rather than go through the trouble again.  After about 30 minutes another person came on and explained that Gayle was not available, but that they could help me. I explained the situation again and they said that the correct address was in the system. I explained to her the situation that occurred yesterday with the other representative. She assured me that it would be sent to the correct address and that it would be sent out today. I should have it in 3 to 5 business days.  On the outside that should be by October 31, Halloween. Now, that's a scary thought. I bet I know the outcome already.
Another few hours on the phone, oh well. what to you expect in such a technologically advanced society.

I have decided that this thread has taken on a life of its own and has nothing to do with DirecTV anymore. I am now going to post to a new page called Equifax. Please continue on that post.






Monday, August 27, 2012

Comcast joins Charter Communications in hall of shame


The following is a series of entries that I will continue to post to until I get closure or I reach a stale mate.  If you are interested in the item I suggest you bookmark this page and check back on my progress.  I will remove this message when the post has gone to its logical conclusion.



8/27/12

This all started with my bill from Comcast in late July, 2012. My bill increased from about $120 per month to $153 a month with no apparent reason. On August 3, 2012 I called Comcast to find out why my bill had increased so much. I was told that the promotional rate that I was paying had expired and that this was my new rate.
I asked if there was any way to get the service reduced. They told me there was no way to do it other than to terminate my service.
I told them to terminate my telephone service and keep the internet and Cable TV service.  They immediately offered me a bundled package price of $99 a month for the first year and $119 for the second year. So much for nothing that they could do.
I said that was fine.  They said that in order to get that rate I had to make a commitment for two years and that if I were to cancel before that time I would be subject to a penalty.  They told me that I would receive a letter with the agreement in the mail and that I would have up to 30 days to decline the terms.
I looked forward to receiving the agreement.
I was also told that I would have to be verified by an independent organization that I really wanted to avail myself of this agreement. I agreed to that too and was transferred to them. I agreed to the terms that I would have 30 days to decline the terms of the agreement.

About a week later, August 11, I believe,  I had reason to call Comcast again on an unrelated matter. While I was on the phone it came out that Comcast believed that the last time I had communicated with them was a number of months previously. I told them that I had spoken to them only the week before and that I had tentatively agreed to a bundled agreement, subject to my review of the written agreement just the week before.  They searched and said that they had no record of that, but that I could sign up for that bundled package while on the phone on August 11.

I signed up again and also was verified by the independent organization. I was told that I would be receiving my agreement in the mail and that I had 30 days to decline the agreement. I consented provisionally, subject to my review after I received the written agreement.

I marked my calendar for August 27 and when that day came I called Comcast to find out why I had not received my written agreement for review.
At first they told me that I would not receive a written agreement in the mail, that they would summarize it on the phone and that would be that. I said that I wanted to see the agreement. After being told that they would send it to me again. I reminded them that if I would receive the agreement after September 11, 2012 the 30 probationary period would have expired and I would not be able to cancel without incurring some sort of penalty.  They said that they would extend the deadline by 15 days to mid September.
At this point, while it may not seem possible, I had invested about 4 hours of my time in this endeavor.
I told them that I was not going to start the process over in another 10 days. Could they please send me an email of the agreement. NO.
However they did say that if I were to log onto comcast.com/agreement and put in a id and code which they gave me I could see it there.
Try as I might, the information they gave me did not work. I could not see any agreement.
I called back and was told that I could go to my local Comcast office and they would print it out for me.
I went to my local Comcast office and made the request for the agreement.  They told me that they could verbally summarize the agreement, but that I could not get a written copy of the agreement.

It was at this point that it became clear to me that they DO NOT want me to see this agreement. They want me to give up and just accept the fact that I am accepting the agreement without having seen it.
I again called Comcast and told them of my dilemma. They cannot help me.  While I was on the phone I asked about my bill which had not arrived.  They told be what the charges were and they seemed too high. They told me that they had mailed it to me on August 21, almost a week ago.  Okay, it might still be in the mail. I'll give it a few more days.
In going through the charges it became clear that there was a $10 fee for electing the bundle agreement. How convenient was it that they failed to mention this little detail when I signed up for the service?
As I started to get irritated about this charge they told me they would give me a credit for the $10 charge.
I have never felt so flim flammed by a con artist as by Comcast.  When are they going to grow up and behave like a legitimate business instead of a fly by night siding salesman?

I filed a formal complaint with the local Telecommunications Agency. This is supposed to be the watchdog organization.
Tune in next week to see what the next installment of this saga results in.
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8/28/12

Today, my Comcast bill actually arrived. The $99 special actually came in at $129. I did expect a little bit higher than $99. In dissecting the bill I see a new charge for "HD Technology Fee" at $10. It is in there twice. Now, yesterday, they removed what they told me was a fee for a change of service, but I do not see that in here.  I'll just assume that this is that charge, but twice. If I remove it, I get to about $109, which is about right (cable modem is $7 and there are some taxes for a few bucks). I will have to bring up the double charge to them.

I again called Comcast about the agreement. They disavowed any knowledge about the previous conversations and the extension of the probationary period to mid September. I was clearly running out of time to review the agreement before the apparent deadline of around the end of August. I cancelled the service.

8/29/12
I was called today by the Executive offices of Comcast with respect to the complaint that I filed.
I carefully explained in great detail the wild goose chase that I was put through in trying to get the written agreement.  The person was pleasant and offered to summarize the agreement verbally for me.
She also pointed out that they have 30 days to produce the written agreement and that since I had cancelled the service I would not be receiving the agreement. I pointed out to her that since I had just cancelled the service and they had sent out the agreement in a written form such that I would receive it before the 30 deadline that the agreement would already be in the mail and that they could not rescind the letter's arrival. (By the way, the letter never arrived, so it was a ruse, there never was a letter). She also said that since I had cancelled the service that I could not see what the agreement would have been.

The individual disavowed all the claims that were made by other Comcast personnel, to wit:
That I would receive a written agreement within 10 days,
That I would have the opportunity to review the agreement for up to thirty days from the date I signed up.
That there was a penalty of $480 for early cancellation. 
That I would be obligated for the penalty if I cancelled the agreement yesterday 8/28/12, just 25 days after I signed up
That I could pick up a written version of my agreement at the local Comcast office.
That they did not agree to send me a written agreement and that the verbal agreement was all that was necessary, in spite of the fact that part of the verbal agreement was that I would have 30 days to cancel the agreement upon inspection. 


9/5/12
I have returned the equipment to Comcast today. I have a signed receipt for the equipment and they owe me a refund of $10.57. I do not want them to mail the check to my billing address, but rather here to my home. I called to make sure that they have the correct address. I cannot get into their system since I am now not a customer, even though the account is not settled yet!. I finally got through and they will send a check within a few weeks.
In the meantime I have signed up for DirectTV and AT&T DSL. So far the AT&T ISP service appears to be somewhat faster than the Comcast Xfinity service.  DirecTV seems to be working just fine too. I certainly get more stations on DirecTV than Comcast and it is a lot cheaper.  I am very pleased with the tremendous reduction in price and the increased level of service from both of these carriers.
I did have one problem with representations made by AT&T with regard to the amount of time it would take for them to establish service here. Since there was no AT&T service at this location for many years they had to bring a new line to the house.  They were unable to meet their commitment to have me up and running within 72 hours. Due to the long holiday weekend I had to suffer with withdrawal symptoms of not having access to the internet.
I did also have one difficulty with DirecTV in that they did not get the mailing address I gave them into their system.  The bill arrived today and I have now asked them to change my billing address.  They also were unable to verify my credit report at this billing address (well, I guess they will just have to follow instructions, won't they).

9/21/12
It has been more than two weeks since Comcast said I would receive the refund in about two weeks. I will wait another week just to make sure it is not already in the mail.

9/24/12
I called Comcast to probe the fact that I have not received my check for the credit balance due and the final detail statement of my account did not arrive. Here is the new story they have for me this week.  I was not issued a monthly statement this month because there was no balance due. The representative stated that a credit was posted to my account on 9/15/12 and that it takes two to three weeks for the check to arrive.  I should be receiving my next month statement because it now shows a credit balance due. I will then see the detail of how the credit was arrived at.  This is a good sounding story, though it is somewhat different from the story I got a number of weeks ago. I will mark my calendar to look for the check arriving by the first week of October.

10/5/12
I have waited the prescribed amount of time for the Comcast statement and refund check to arrive, but alas, it has not. I called Comcast today. Here is the flavor of the day from Comcast.  Since I do not owe them any money I will not be receiving a statement. When I pointed out that I had not received a final accounting nor my refund, they said I should receive that by next Thursday, October 11. I will mark my calendar for this event.  If I do not receive anything by next Friday I will file another complaint with the  Telecommunications Agency.

10/9/12
Today, I received a check dated 9/24/12 in the amount of $10.57 from Comcast. No accounting of how they got to that number included. Maybe I will receive that in the next two days as they promised.

10/12/12
Called Comcast. They claim that I was already sent bills covering the periods 8/20/12 to 9/29/12 and 9/30/12 to 10/29/12. I told them I never received them. They are issuing copies to me at the service

10/21/2012
Telecommunications Agency

Dear Ms. Sennett:

If you will recall that I contacted you earlier this year about Comcast's inability to produce the written agreement that I had verbally agreed to in order to get a "package" that they were offering.
If you will recall the agreement was subject to my ability to cancel the contract within the first 30 day period once I reviewed the written terms of the agreement, which they were supposed to send me.
I had not received the written terms in spite of numerous attempts by various Comcast personnel leading me down blind alleys to get the written agreement, including sending me to the local Comcast office to get a printout.  In spite of all these attempts, I have never seen any such written agreement.

After my complaint to you I got a call from the executive offices of Comcast, wherein they explained to me that they would summarize the agreement verbally and that I did not need the written agreement. Since 29 days of the 30 period had elapsed and I had that very morning cancelled the agreement with them since I was not in receipt of the written agreement, the representative said that I would now not be receiving the written agreement (it is as though they had reached into the US Postal Service and retrieved the one they allegedly had sent to me in the mail that I never received).
This is all poppycock. There never was a written agreement in spite of all the promises to produce one.

Now, what I am complaining about is that I have never received a final accounting of how the charges were arrived at to get to my final bill. I would think that I would be entitled to one.

Thank you for your assistance.

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12/2/12

It has been about 6 weeks now and I have not gotten any response to my email. Very curious.
I will have to follow up on this.

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2/20/2015

I had been on DirecTV and AT&T Uverse (Internet) and Vonage for about 2 1/2 years.  The service on both DirecTV and AT&T degraded considerably.  They took away quite a few of the channels on the TV and said that if I wanted them back I would have to cough up more money, and the DSL service degraded considerably, to the point were streaming videos on my PC were not running in real time anymore.
I had forgotten many of the detail of the above spat with Comcast and decided to switch back to Comcast.  These are really the only two choices (except, there is alway Dish TV, but then what would I use for internet?).
I researched the deals and picked out the basic Xfinity Triple Play for TV, Internet, and Telephone.
I chose to do my own installation and purchased my own modem for the Internet and their VOIP Telephone.

So, here's what I went through with the salesperson on the phone.
I get:
1. Cable TV with 140 stations including HD
2. Internet with speed up to 50Mbps (this is actually 15Mbps)
3. VOIP telephone service for unlimited calls within the US, Puerto Rico, and Canada
4. A $100 visa gift card

And, I get all this for $89.99 a month for the first 12 months and $114.99 a month for the next 12 months (24 month commitment. Charges would not accrue until I got all my services attached.  The lead time on the phone was 15 business days.
There is a monthly charge for the Cable TV Box.  No installation charge because I did the installation myself.

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2/28/2015

I realized that Comcast was going to send the $100 gift card to my billing address and I called them to change that address.  They informed me that they see no gift card as part of the deal.  I told them that if the gift card were not part of the deal that I would cancel the service.  They told me to cancel the service if that is what I wanted to do since there is no gift card that would be forthcoming.

An hour later I decided to call back and ask them for a written copy of the agreement.  After some shuffling on their part they told me that I did not have an agreement with them.  This means that there is no 24 month commitment to them. I asked them what the charges were and they told me to log onto my account to find out.
I complained again about the fact that the "deal" as advertised for my town on their internet ad on their website clearly indicates that there is a $100 gift card in the offer.  They said that they would give me a $100 credit on my account.
I went on-line to find that the charges on my account (which were for paperless billing, which I never agreed to) were $145 and due in about 2 weeks.  This included the $89.99 charge, plus the cable modem, plus a whole bunch of charges for installation, installation kits, etc.  I told them that they did not do the installation and that the kits were not delivered. This will be revisited in a few weeks once I have my VOIP telephone service up and running. More importantly, they are charging for all the services as if I had them all up and running already, as opposed to what they told me on the phone that my billing would not start until I had all my services up and running.

What is clear at this point is that Comcast is running the same scam about contracts that I encountered a few years ago.  There is no such thing as a contract.  It is a myth.  Unless you leave them too early and they want a penalty fee for not fulfilling your contract.  Catch 22.

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3/2/15

I called Comcast again today about this bill that they generated and send paperlessly to my on-line account that I just happened to stumble upon.
So, I have now learned that they, contrary to their prior proclamation, charged me for all three services from inception, even though I do not have the telephone service.  Today they claim they have annotated my account with a note saying that I should get a credit for the time that I do not have telephone service.  This will be activated when I notify them that I have telephone service.

I have challenged the charges for $30 for the self starter kits that I never received. They have now allege that hey have given me credit for those and they will appear on my bill within 7 days.

I have also asked again if I have a contract with them.  They initially said yes, but then when I challenged that they relented.  They said that I can document this by going to the local office and asking for a printout of the fact that I do not have a contract with them.
These people are sleezeballs.  They will put their hand in your pocket and take your money if you do not watch them every minute of the day.

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3/4/15
I went to the local Comcast office to pick up my documentation that I do not have a contract with them and they have now assured me that I do have a contract, but that they cannot produce it.  They say that it should be mailed to me.  Where have I heard this story before.  Oh, yes, it was the last time I want through this charade with them a few years ago.  This is like an Abbot and Costello reoutine. Who's on first?  I am now going to file a duplicated complaint with the local Telecommunications Commission.

I have called the local Telecommunications Agency over the last few days and left messages.  They have not called back.  I have read through their literature online and it appears that they cannot really do anything except forward a complaint to Comcast. I guess it is not worth pursuing the complaint with them.

I am on the phone with Comcast again.  A very nice agent who has explained that there are two software systems at Comcast. One system says I have a contract, the other says I do not.  I told them that I must get this situation resolved.

They think they have resolved the problem.  They have asked me to answer some questions confirming my understanding of the contract that I am entering. I have answered the questions, but in answer to the question as to whether I understand that I will be responsible for cancelation fees should I cancel the contract I answered that "If I have an opportunity to review the actual written agreement before the cancellation period ends then I would agree to be bound by the agreement."

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3/17/15
My telephone service with Vonage went dead. I presume it is the cutover time for Comcast's phone service.  They told me that they were going to call me before this happened.  Good thing it happened this morning and not this afternoon when I have a very important conference call.
Comcast is activating my Comcast phone now.  It is now working.
I asked about the fact that I have not received the contract from Comcast yet.  They explained that it was sent to me. I said I did not receive it.  They said they emailed it to me at some email address that I did not know about that they set up for me at comcast.net.  I checked. It is not there.  They now tell me that somehow I got the contract rate, but I do not have a contract.  I told them that I want a contract. They say that they are sending it to me and that I will now have 30 days to review it.
I asked for the credit on the charges for the phone service I did not get from 2/20/15 to present.  They said that it is $16.49. I challenged the number as being incorrect.  They changed the number to $21.00. They just make all this stuff up. I have no idea where they are coming from.

I just called back Comcast to verify that the note is still in their system that I am to receive a contract AND that they will send it to me for revie. no contract and I ca back out when I want without cancellation fees.
I also challenged the monthly recurring charges amount. They have issued me a credit for $8.44. Monthly charges starting next month will be $107.64.

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3/19/15
I am approaching the 30 day limit to get out of the Comcast contract that Comcast has said that they will reinstate, which they had previously renunciated without bothering to inform me. I called to just check on things again today.  Well. Well.  Today the story is that I definitely do not have a contract and that I can cancel at any time without penalty.  I have asked for them to send me some tangible form of that statement so that when they ask for the cancellation fee that I can show it to them.  They say that they cannot do that.  Catch 22 again.  I spoke with Daniel today at extension 301 4291.  He has said that he will research the situation and get back to me and assured me that my cancellation period will be extended until such time as I have reviewed the contract, if Comcast should decide at some later time that they changed their mind and rediscovered that I do have a contract, contradicting what they are telling me.







Thursday, February 9, 2012

Republican National Committee

September 18, 2008

Mr. Tim Morgan
Treasurer
Republican National Committee
310 First St, SE
Washington DC 20003

Dear Mr. Morgan:

I am in receipt of your letter of Wednesday morning. I do have some problems with the tone of your letter. I am not your "friend". More importantly, I have a problem with the organization for which you are attempting to solicit funds.

First of all, I have not abandoned the Republican Party. If anything, the Republican Party has abandoned me. You are factually incorrect that I generously supported President Bush. I personally think that Bush and Cheney should be impeached and removed from office at a minimum. The current Republican ticket for President and Vice President is unacceptable to me and I cannot support your efforts.

Please remove me from your member list.

Sincerely,



XXXXXXXX


JP Morgan Chase Bank -- What are the odds?

I encountered a new low in banking experiences today.
I had occasion to go to my local Chase Bank branch to cash two paychecks. I have an account at Chase, but for this transaction I was going to Cash the checks.
I was the only one in line with two teller stations open. It seemed to be a long wait and I had only eight minutes on the parking meter, so I wanted to get through the line quickly. This was not to be the case.
I presented the teller with my two checks and I swiped my ID card through the machine and put in my pin number. The teller was nice enough, and asked me how I wanted my cash.
She then proceeded to tell me that I was to get $370.
I pointed out to her that it was not an round number of dollars that I was expecting.
She looked at her screen and then finally corrected herself and came back with $370.50
I pointed out to her that it was not a round number like that.
She looked at her screen and reiterated $370.50.
I again pointed out to her that I did not think that was right.
She looked at the original checks and took out a pencil and paper and did some arithmetic. Something was wrong. She concluded that the machine had erroneously read one of the checks for the incorrect amount.
She reprocessed the checks with a manual override and said proudly, "$370.52".
I concurred.
She then proceeded to count out $360 in $20 bills plus a $10 bill for a total of $370
and then pressed a button for the machine to dispense the change. I received $.02.
This is short by $.50. I said.
Oh, yes, the machine does that sometimes, she said.
Okay, I got the right amount, but the $25 parking ticket for the amount of time consumed was not sitting right with me.
I count four separate errors made by the teller/system on this transaction. Each error was not in my favor. What are the odds?
First of all, what is the chance that there will be any error in a transaction? I thought they never make mistakes.
Assuming that any given error will have a 50/50 chance that it will be for/against me, the chances of this occurring with four errors against me is 1/16. This is amazing.

US Postal Service

Complaint registered on-line to the USPS:

I went to the postal substation in zip code xxxxx today. I had a large envelope filled with 8 1/2 x 11 inch papers. I had it addressed and ready to mail. I went up to the postal clerk and asked,

"What are my options on mailing this?"

She said "Express mail at $18.30"

I had expected more, but unfortunately it stopped with that.

I said, 'Isn't there Priority Mall also?"

She said "Yes, $7.95". and again stopped with that.

I said, "How much is First Class?"

She said, "It is over 13 ounces, so it can't go First Class".

"OKAY",I said. "Isn't there Flat Rate Priority Mail?"

She said "Yes"

"Well, how much is that?"

"$4.95"

"Where are the flat rate envelopes?", I asked.

She pointed and I went to get one.

This is ridiculous.

I expect that a postal clerk would know the options and give them to me instead of me having to drag options out of them one at a time from the most expensive on down. This is not good customer service.


Wednesday, January 25, 2012

ADT Home Security Systems

March 21, 2011

Mr. John B. Koch, President
ADT Security Services, Inc.
1 Town Center Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33486

Re: Account # gggggggggg

Dear Mr. Koch:

Yesterday, I received a telephone call from someone, who it turns out, is one of your employees. I found this call quite disturbing and was so upset by the call and the subsequent call that I made to ADT that I felt the only way to address my outrage was to contact you directly and explain to you what happened and why I feel the way I do.

As background information, I have been a customer of ADT (previously Broadview (and prior to that Brinks)) for a number of years and I pay my bills in a timely fashion. I live in YYYYYYYY. On March 19, 2011, the area experienced a very strong storm with accompanying high winds. We lost our power that evening at about 10 PM. On March 20, the next day, at about 6 PM our power was restored. Needless to say, the security system, which had been on battery backup, did not have its batteries charged for nearly a day.

Shortly after the power was restored I received a phone call from someone who identified themselves as being from ADT Security. They proceeded to tell me that there was a problem with my system (they gave no indication what that problem was) and then asked me to provide my secret password. I told them that there was no way that I was going to give out my password to someone who calls me out of the blue just because they say that they are from ADT. For all I knew this was a con artist trying to get access to my private information so that they could perpetrate some nefarious scheme upon me. They then told me that if I did not provide the information they wanted that they could not tell me what was wrong with my system.

After the first call, I called ADT Security. I spoke to someone who confirmed that I was, in fact, called by someone from ADT Security and that the problem was that my backup battery was low. I indicated to the person that the problem I was having was with the fact that ADT called me and I had no way of ascertaining if it was really ADT and that in my wildest imagination I could not believe that a “security” company would be so inept and naive as to operate in such an inappropriate and unprofessional manner.

The person I spoke with tried everything in their power to get the focus of the discussion off the point I was making and onto other matters. I could not get them to acknowledge that there was a problem in the way that ADT was operating. I pointed out to him that it would be as if I called him out of the blue at home and told him I was with the police and asked him to give me his social security number and other personal information. He still would not acknowledge the problem I was pointing out.

At the very least, I would expect that in situations like this that your personnel would direct the customer they are calling to call ADT and then proceed with the revelation of the password. At least that way the customer could be assured that they are speaking with the real ADT.

I expect more out of my security company than what I got.

If you feel that your procedures in circumstances similar to this are appropriate and leave them unchanged, then I could simply wait for the next power outage in this area and call people who have ADT signs outside their homes and when they told me their secret passwords I would tell them their batteries were low. I am sure that I could collect many of them. Good thing I am not a criminal.

I hope that I have made my point clear. If not, I would be happy to explain it to you or one of your representatives.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXX


10/31/12
Note on ADP. I was doing some work around the house and had to call ADP to disable a portion of the home security system. First problem, I was on hold for over 15 minutes before I spoke to the first human. Next, I found this person unable to listen to what I had to say and kept interrupting me with what I should do before I could explain the situation. We finally got to the point where she got the information and then proceeded to correct her previous instructions in light of the information I had just provided. Unfortunately, the information she gave me was incorrect for this system.

I called back and waited over 10 minutes to speak to a human. This person understood what was required and indicated that there was no way to shut down that part of the alarm system. They were helpful in that they suggested that I put in a disregard notice for the next 12 hours to accommodate the situation, which I did.
I called back again today to remove the disregard and to find out what events were recorded. Unfortunately, they did not have any events triggered. Since I had personally triggered the system, I guess they did not receive the signal to disregard. Not much value in this system. Time to find a better alarm company.

Charter Communications wins honor in hall of shame for customer service

April 22, 2011

Charter Communications
941 Charter Commons Dr.
Town & Country, MO 63017

Re: Account # gggggggggggggggg

Gentlemen:

I cancelled my service recently. I will spare you the details of the crappy service and treatment that I have received, and the rapacious pricing policies that have all brought me to that decision. The matter at hand, simply stated, is finalizing the last payment to you people to get you guys off my back forever.

I must say that the parting, while somewhat gratifying to me, has been a rather harrowing experience. First, let me state, that I still do not have a correct final bill. My intention is to pay my final bill when it is corrected to reflect the true amount that I owe.

In the meantime, I have been dunned and harassed by your agents, more specifically: Equipment Recovery Service and Credit Management LP for sums that I do not owe.

As a matter of record, I note:

Upon termination of the service, as requested by Charter, we attempted to deliver the cable box to your retail outlet in YYYYYYYYY during normal business hours on a non holiday business day, but found the establishment closed, with other customers as baffled as us waiting outside the store.

We then arranged for Charter to send the prepaid return kit for the cable box, which eeeeventually arrived. We returned the cable box via FedEx, only to have to pay an additional charge for the opportunity to do so. (Do we get reimbursed for that?)

In the meantime, Charter would not acknowledge receipt of the cable box nor agree to remove the charge for the cable box. It was only when we produced the receipt for the shipment that the clowns that you call employees would acknowledge anything. Great way to handle this type of situation. Zing ‘em if they don’t keep the receipt.

Also, in the meantime, Equipment Recover Service’s constant droning phone calls were enough to wake the dead. They do not seem to understand English. Now that ERS has stopped haranguing us, the drum is now being pounded by Credit Management LP. Besides wanting the wrong amount, they are incapable of hearing anything.

Hey guys, the delays in getting the equipment back to you and the crediting of our account for the return of that equipment have been YOUR problems, not ours. In the meantime, your zealots have not allowed even one minute for your ever so slow back office to keep up with them.

Get your act together and get this matter taken care of.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXX

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April 27, 2011

Charter Communications
941 Charter Commons Dr.
Town & Country, MO 63017

Re: Former Account # gggggggggggggggggg

Gentlemen:

Once again, the comedy rolls on. While I am still being robo-called by Credit Management LLP, I have now received a call from a human from your Charter Communications corporate office with regard to my previous letter of April 21. As I understand the caller, she was going to give me a verbal explanation as to why the bill I would be receiving would not be for the correct amount. She further explained that your company is incapable of providing me with either a final bill for the correct amount with the detail of the components of the charges, or a signed original letter stating what the final amount is and the breakdown of how that amount was arrived at.

Here is the score, I am leaving the country for an indefinite period of time on May 11. If this matter is not resolved before I leave, then it will have to just wait until I come back someday. I have given you ample opportunity to resolve the matter. I am ready, able, and willing to pay a legitimate bill for the correct amount, so long as it has an adequate explanation as to how the charges were arrived at, to end these farcical theatrics that your company puts out as “doing business”.



XXXXXXX
P.S. It still doesn’t make any sense to me that I have to write and post letters to you via snail mail in this modern era. I thought that you guys were a technology company. My email address is right there in the heading along with my regular address. I dare you to use it. Perhaps you could post to me an explanation of exactly why you can’t perform the most basic of business functions and that I should just trust that you will do right by me. You have such a stellar reputation for being trustworthy.

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July 29, 2011

Charter Communications
941 Charter Commons Dr.
Town & Country, MO 63017

Re: Former Account # gggggggggggggggg

Gentlemen:

This letter is following up on my letters of April 21, 2011 and April 27, 2011. The address above is the only address that I have that you can send written communication to. I have now returned to the United States and to date have not received any response to my letter of April 27, or a final bill from either Charter Communications or Credit Management LLP.

I am still being robo-called by Credit Management LLP. I am ready, able, and willing to pay a legitimate bill for the correct amount, so long as it is presented to me in a tangable form and has an adequate explanation as to how the charges were arrived at.

Please have Credit Mangement LLP stop dunning me. If you want to pursue this matter without sending me a bill you will have to do it in a court of law.


XXXXXXXX

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3/7/12
Complaint to FCC filed against Charter Communications.
I terminated services with Charter Communications. I received a bill that was incorrect. I spoke to a representative that said the amount was incorrect and gave me an aledgedly corrected amount verbally on the phone without any supporting detail. I requested a final corrected bill. She indicated she could not do that. I have written to the company three times on this matter with no response. I have however received dunning telephone calls from their debt collection company. I have asked them to stop telephoning me, but rather to communicate in an appropriate manner via the mail and I will pay the appropriate bill when received. I was reciving calls from the debt collection company less than 30 days after I received the final incorrect bill.

XXXXXXXXX
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3/7/12
Confirmation of FCC Complaint filed against Charter Communications.
FCC Submission Confirmation: XXXXXX
Acknowledgement of Submission from (name withheld) on 03/07/2012, reference number xxxxxxxxxxxx.
Thank you for your information. The FCC will contact you if additional information is required. Please keep this information for future reference.
ATTENTION: When submitting additional information using this FCC Submission Confirmation sheet, please attach only one unsolicited fax advertisement (or multiple advertisements from the same sender) that matches your complaint number and carrier company named in this complaint. DO NOT include multiple unsolicited faxes from different senders with this unique case number. Your complaint is subject to be rejected, if more than one unsolicited fax advertisement from different senders accompanies this FCC Submission Confirmation sheet.
Please use this page as a Fax Cover Sheet when faxing additional details to the FCC at (866) 418-0232.
3/15/12
email to Ms Francis Ali, Charter Communications

Ms. Ali,

Thank you for responding to me on behalf of Charter Communications as a result of my complaint to the FCC. I enclose herewith the three letters I sent to Charter Communications over the last year concerning any outstanding bill. (see above).
Additionally, after thinking about our conversation, when I review the final corrected bill that you are going to send me via email, I am going to request that you also send that final corrected bill, once I approve the amount, to the bill pay address that you have alway had on file for my account. Additionally, I want a letter from Charter Communications, stating that any credit blemishes resulting from the inability of Charter to resolve the issues in a timely fashion were theirs alone and should not reflect in any way on my ability to pay bills in a prompt and timely fashion.

Sincerely,
3/16/12 8:32 AM

Good Morning, Mr. XXXXX
Here are the last 3 statements from your account you had with us. It’s not going to show an actual figure of your balance of $114.23 but after some math, it does come out to that amount. The first bill was printed on 2/4/11 and you came off seasonal as of 2/6/11 so it’s still showing seasonal rates for a month in advance. Which is why the second bill (amounting in $251.17) has prorated charges from 2/6-3/13 on top of the regular monthly rate for the cycle of 3/14-4/13. But then the final bill (amounting $313.23) has credits owed to you for service charges from 3/11-4/13 because you’re billing stop date was for 3/11/11. Because you did end up returning the equipment, you take the final amount of $313.23 and subtract the equipment charges of $199 and it gives you the remaining balance of $114.23. The $114.23 is billing you for charges up until you disconnected.
I hope all of that made sense to you. If you need further explanation or still do not agree with the final billed amount, please do not hesitate to let me know.
Thank you,


3/16/12 8:58 AM
Ms. Ail,
Thank you for the email with the billing. I will review it later today. Did you receive the email I sent you yesterday with the correspondence I had sent to Charter during the last year?




PS I am still receiving dunning telephone calls from Credit Management. Please have this stopped.
3/16/12 9:03 AM

Mr. XXXXX,
I did receive the email in regard to the letters you sent to us in 2011. Let me know your thoughts in the final billing amount I just sent you.
Unfortunately, there is currently not a way to stop the collection calls until the actual debt is cleared. I apologize for the inconvenience this is causing you.
Thank you,
Francis Ali | Executive Escalation Lead II | (864.297.2284 | :864.297.2236
-2 Digital Place | Simpsonville, SC 29681 | francis.ali@chartercom.com
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3/16/12 9:08AM
Ms. Ali,
As I had indicated earlier, I will be reviewing the material you sent me later today. I have retrieved the latest billing that I had received from both Charter and CMI [redacted]

You will note that the bill from Charter dated March 23, 2011 was for $313.23
The dunning from CMI dated April 12, 2011 was for $269.23.

You will note that both are different from the claims you made in your email earlier today and were, therefore, incorrect.
Further you will note that the above Charter Communications bill indicated that the due date was 4/17/11and that I was being dunned before even the due date.

Shame on Charter for these kind of practices.

In your responses you gave me no indication as to your position on the other point I raised about a letter from Charter concerning any credit blemishes that may have resulted from Charter's fiasco here.

Sincerely,

3/16/12 10:19 AM
Mr. XXXXX
Thank you for your email. In an earlier conversation, I explained that the actual bill is not reflecting the actual amount owed, and also how the amount owed of $114.23 charges were derived from.

As far as the amount CMI is claiming they are needing, you will need to contact them. Charter, unfortunately, does not have access to their billing system to be able to see where their charges are deriving from.

In regard to the letters you forwarded to me that you sent to Charter in 2011, with it being some time ago, I'm not sure what clearly did happen as to the reason you did not get a response. That is something that will have to be researched through upper management.

Thank you,
3/16/12 10:35 AM
Ms Ali,
Thanks for your quick response. I have still not had a chance to actually sit down with everything in front of me to review the material. I take it from your comment that the bills you sent me are not reflecting the amount actually owed. This is going to be interesting how you are going to convince me that I should just trust a company that that has made such a mess out of a relatively simple matter in the past year.

Also, I have no interest in communicating with CMI. Based upon your comment I will now require you to indemnify me from any obligations to CMI with respect to this matter once I pay the amount that we agree to.

I don't really care what you do with the letters I sent to Charter over the last year that I emailed to you earlier.

Please note that this will be the third time I am asking you to comment on the letter I am requesting from Charter with regard to any credit blemishes that may result from this problem you seem to have in your organization.

Sincerely,
3/16/12 11:07 AM
Ms Ali,
I have now printed out the material you sent me earlier and I have reviewed it.
What you have sent me I ALREADY HAD IN MY FILE. I have those three bills. None of them represent anything new or the amount that is actually due.
I need a final bill that reflects the credits that bring down the charges from the most recent bill you sent, and which I also sent to you earlier from my files.
What I am saying, again, is that from the March 23, 2011 bill of $313.23 there should be a credit of $199.00. You are saying the same thing.
NOW, send me the official notification of credit of $199.00 and showing that the total now due is now $114.23 along with the letter I requested indicating that I am not responsible for any credit delinquencies with respect to this matter and also indemnifying me from any obligation to pay CMI anything with regard to this matter and I will pay the bill.

IF YOUR ORGANIZATION IS INCAPABLE OF GENERATING SUCH A FINAL STATEMENT please send a signed letter summarizing this understanding and I will pay the amount that is due.

Sincerely,
3/16/12 12:04 PM
Mr. XXXXX,

As a courtesy, I have contacted CMI and verified that they, too, have a balance of $114.23 owed. The statements I have sent you is to show how your current balanced owed was derived. Since the account closed prior to equipment returned, it will not produce a bill showing $114.23 owed. Nor am I able to produce a letter indicating this amount. But what can happen is I will write FCC a formal letter in response to your complaint and it will indicate the final amount owed.

If you choose to make a payment of $114.23 with me, I will notify CMI of the payment so it will close the debt with them, as well. As far as any credit blemishes or indemnifying any owed money to CMI, that will have to taken up with CMI since they are the one that reports collections owed to credit bureaus.

Thank you,

3/16/12 12:14 PM
Ms Ali, I appreciate your offer under the circumstances since your organization is incapable of producing a bill that reflects the amount due that you would write to the FCC that the total balance due is $114.23. I am presuming here that at some point that letter will be made available to me. That type of documentation is satisfactory for me to finally get concurrence with you about the amount to dispose of this matter once and for all.
Now, with regard to CMI, I am not going to deal with CMI. I will leave it to Charter Communications to deal with CMI.
So, the only outstanding issue that will be left after you send the FCC the proposed letter is to, in some way, satisfy me that my credit history will not be blemished though this ordeal and that if it was that I have a document that will satisfy the credit reporting agencies that this problem was not mine.

I do not have control of this. Only Charter can resolve this.
When you have the solution worked out please let me know.

Sincerely,

3/16/12 12:34 PM
Mr. XXXXX,

I will go ahead and send FCC the formal letter today so you will have documentation of the amount owed.

Unfortunately, any inquiries on credit blemishes need to be addressed with CMI.

Thank you and have a wonderful weekend,
3/16/12 3:14 PM
Ms Ali,


Thank you for your most recent email. As I understand your comments, you will NOT be sending me the letter, or even a copy of the letter you are sending to the FCC. I have attempted to find out how I might get a copy of such a letter when it is received by the FCC. I have not been successful in that regard.
I would strongly suggest, to expedite this matter, that you also send me a copy of that letter to my billing address so that I may use the letter as the basis for the payment.

Also, you do realize that if I were to contact CMI about any blemishes on my credit report, since they are not privy to the information that I have sent to Charter Communications, there would be no basis for them to want to correct the matter. The only way this is going to work is if Charter Communications were to intercede on my behalf on the matter.

Until I have some reasonable assurance that I am going to come out of this unscathed I am afraid that we are going to be at a stand-off.

I hope you have a great weekend too.

Sincerely,
3/19/12

Good afternoon, Mr. XXXXX,



Thank you for your email. I already sent FCC a formal letter in response to your complaint. From there, FCC should send you a copy of the letter.



Thank you,


Francis Ali | Executive Escalation Lead II | 864.297.2284 | 864.297.2236
82 Digital Place | Simpsonville, SC 29681 | francis.ali@chartercom.com
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March 18, 2012
Notes of conversation with the FCC on my complaint about Charter communications.

I spoke with a representative of the FCC on this matter. They said that to date they have not received any correspondence from Charter, but that if and when they do receive any communications from them they would forward it to me.

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March 19 2012
Offices of Credit Management, LP
Mr. xxxxx
Creditor Charter Communications
tDear Mr. xxxxx
The above client has informed Credit management LP of your outstanding balance of $114.23. Please send payment in full to the address below.
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if you have any questions or need further assistance, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-377-7723

Sincerely,
Credit management, Lp Collections Department, a member of ACA International

3/22/2022
notes of conversation with CMI

I initiated a call to CMI as a result of the letter I received on 3/22/2012 that was dated March 19, 2012 above. I explained to the person that I had just received the letter and that this was the first letter from them that might have the correct amount due in it, but still contains no detail specifying how this number was arrived at (no detail). They indicated that they had just received this revised amount from Charter a few days ago.
CMI indicated in this call that they have not blemished my credit report yet, but that if I did not pay this bill immediately that they would do so. I indicated the history of the account, pointing out that only after my complaint to the fcc did charter respond to me in spite of all my attempts to contact them directly. I informed the CMI representative that Charter refused to provide me with a detail breakdown of my final bill and was sending the material (as of 3/17/12) to the FCC for the FCC to forward to me. I spoke with the FCC yesterday and they have not received any such letter yet, but they did indicate that if they were to receive such a letter they would forward it to me. I informed CMI that my intention since March of last year was to pay the bill in a timely fashion as soon as a final and accurate bill was presented to me, which has not been done to date.
CMI expressed that they would not delay any negative credit reporting until the letter is received because I had a year to resolve the matter and it wasn't resolved.


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Federal Communications Commission
Consumer Complaints
445 12th St
Washington, DC 20554

re: Compainant Mr. XXXXXXXXXXX
Complaint Number YYYYYYYYYYY
Date served from FCC 3/21/2012
Charter communications ("charter") received notice from the federal communications commission of the above-referenced notice of informal complaint (the "notice"). This correspondence is charter's response to the Notice.
Charter's representative contacted mr. XXXXXXXXXX on March 15, 2012 to discuss his concern.  Mr. XXXXXXXXX was made aware that charter's records indicate that the amount of $114,23 from his previous charter account is a valid debt.  The Charter representative provided contact information for Credit management , Inc. and made XXXXXXXXXXX aware of all available options to disclose this debt.  Charter's contact information was provided as well in the event that Mr. XXXXXXXX had any questions or concerns.

Regards,

David Oldani
Regulatory Specialist
cc:Mr.XXXXXXXX
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6/7/12
Supplementary information provided to the fcc on complaint of March 7, 2012

Follow up information consumer would like added to complaint:
Consumer said account dispute was beCause they did not send him a bill and they did not address his complaint.  They never sent him a breakdown of the charges.  there is no written documentation noted after they have changed the position on the bill several times.  he needs a correct final bill. he needs a copy of the correct bill, which he has been asking for.  Three hundred calls have come in to him, because of him just wanting a correct bill.

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6/9/12
I received a voicemail from Charter wanting to discuss the matter.
I have returned the call but did not leave a message. I will call again on monday 6/11/12.

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6/11/12

Dear Ms Ali:

I am in receipt of a voicemail from you with regard to my amended complaint to the FCC.
To put it very clearly and succinctly to you here is where the situation is.
Back in March you and I communicated about the problem I am having with Charter that caused me to file my complaint to the FCC.
In those emails you indicated to me that while you could not send me a copy of the detailed final bill, that you would communicate that information in a letter to the FCC which would be forwarded to me.
I have now received a copy of the letter that was sent and it does not address my needs.
Further, the letter states that a copy was sent to me, which it wasn't.

Simply put: I need a final bill from Charter with the customary detail that is on all your bills showing how the charges were arrived at with any credits, etc.
When I receive the bill I will pay it, if it is correct this time. All previous bills have been incorrect and the number has changed.

I look forward to your response. I would prefer that our communications be via email at this time.

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6//11/12


Good afternoon, Mr. XXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for your email.  Back in March, I stated to you I would communicate in a formal letter to FCC indicating the final amount due to Charter, which I have done.  Unfortunately, there will not be a final bill indicating the exact amount owed of $114.23.  The reason for this is that you turned in your Charter equipment after the account closed.  Therefore, the final bill is charging you for equipment that had not been returned at that time. I emailed you a detailed explanation of how the $114.23 was derived.

At this time, due to your frustration and time consumed, I have applied a good will credit of $114.23 to your account to clear your current balance.  I will report the credit to the collection agency, Credit Management, Inc. They will send you a letter of deletion to inform you that the debt has been removed. 

If there are any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you,

Charter Communications.

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6/11/12

Ms. Ali,

I must say that I am pleasantly surprised that Charter is stepping up to the plate and finally realizing the level of frustration that their billing practices have caused. Thank you.
I do note, however, that it does appear that Charter's new agent for collection is not Credit Managment Inc., but rather Enhanced Recovery Company, LLC. I have just received a dunning letter from them.

Regards,

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12/2/12

Postscript.  I guess you just have to keep saying the same thing over and over again until it finally sinks into their pea sized brains.

I found another anecdote today that carries on the theme. See http://consumerist.com/2010/09/21/charter-to-customer-with-five-failed-service-calls-you-havent-bugged-us-enough-to-resolve-your-pro/